For the life of me I cannot yet comprehend how people with RELIGION become so ignorant of SPIRITUALITY......most of the time they cannot even tell the difference between the two.
To help Christians to understand MY arguments I like to use things familiar to them - the sayings of Jesus - and the Bible.
The other day a biologically (but definitely not mentally or spiritually) indigenous person (the 'proud' product of assimilation into dominant society via Religious indoctrination - as this lady quotes Bible verses on their FB all day long) decided to expose her own ignorance by attacking me for saying that we need to put our faith in our ancestors who lived far more spiritually moral and natural world connected lives of innocence - like the same Adam & Eve of the Bible) and NOT put our faith in any organised religion.
She resorted to the usual small-minded arguments of the kind of intellectually challenged person that thinks 'the only truth they need to know' is to be found in their 'Holy Book' - and anyone who does not believe/adhere to it (often even if you don't belong to their particular denominational cult) 'is going to Hell'.
Decrying my use of plants (which God made even according to her own Holy Book Genesis creation story ) and my communication with my ancestors - as being 'Voodoo nonsense'....and said that her ancestors are 'dead' and inferred that they therefore ceased to exist when their physical body died.
Obviously she did not read in her own Holy Book the part where the spirit of Moses (who died hundreds of years before Jesus) appeared next to Jesus for all the disciples to see....OBVIOUSLY Moses did not 'cease to exist' when his body died.....his spirit/soul lives on...just as ALL of our spirits & souls WILL continue to live after our body dies.....for we came into the body FROM the spirit world AS a spirit - and we will merely exit the body and return to the spirit world when our body dies....how ignorant must you be to NOT be able to understand such a simple thing?
These kinds of ignorant 'religious' people have common and easily crushed 'arguments' they like to use....such as:
The Bible says that "the dead know nothing".
True, but the Bible ALSO says "Let the dead bury the dead' ....so if you take the first saying LITERALLY - you must also take the second saying LITERALLY as well....and have YOU ever seen a dead body rise from the grave to bury another dead body? I certainly have not! So don't you think (unless you are a complete idiot) that the Bible is referring to 'SPIRITUALLY DEAD' people in both instances....people like this religious person for example - who own a book they think (or were told to believe) that 'God' literally wrote 'himself'... but they are not even intelligent enough to figure out that a supreme being or 'God' would NOT have a sexual gender which is a mortal physical phenomenon of the flesh only....the Creator is neither male nor female....IT is beyond such limitations....only the teachers of light that come into humanity have recognizable genders - as that is unavoidable in a physical body.
Another point religious people like to use is that 'nakedness = sinfulness' which they use to denigrate the naked ancestors of indigenous peoples.....yet in their own Bible Adam and Eve were NAKED and SINLESS according to the will of God who created them THAT WAY and only began to cover their bodies AFTER they became sinful....so what fool gave you the notion that nakedness is sinful? Was it the admitted liar Paul (who said in his own words "But if through MY LIE God’s truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner?" in Romans 3:7) - and whom Jesus did NOT choose - but who began describing himself as the 'Apostle' (which NO disciple Jesus chose ever said of themselves) preached that 'It is a disgrace for a man to have long hair like a woman' - even though Jesus had long hair like every other Jewish man of his time (except Paul who cut his hair short like the Romans) - because hair was sacred to Hebrew Traditionalist.....so Paul is in fact saying Jesus was a 'disgrace' then (this was used by Missionaries to justify cutting the hair off of indigenous males)...yet you revere Paul's words (even the lying ones) to this day.....I guess you ALSO forget to read the other crap Paul said which was used to justify slavery when he preached:
Ephesians 6:4-6: Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but like slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart.
Ephesians 6:5:Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ.
Colossians 3:22:Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to win their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.
Titus 2:9:Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them,
1 Peter 2:18:Slaves, submit yourselves to your masters with all respect, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh.
Jesus whom you claim to be the MAIN person you follow in your Bible NEVER said such nonsense - but millions of Amerindians and Africans DIED because of Paul preaching that crap, including your own ancestors if you are one of these religious indigenous peoples who have become so brainwashed that you hate your own ancestors and love the ancestors of other peoples who have nothing to do with you instead....your ancestors (who still live in the spirit world despite what you were fooled to disbelieve) must be looking at you in shame and disgrace at what a traitor to them that you have become.
Just because a group of European men in Nicea almost 1700 years ago decided to invent the perfect mind-control tool and put a book of some obvious truths and cleverly concealed LIES together and call it 'the word of God' - does not mean you should follow it like blind sheep being led to a spiritual slaughter....God gave you a BRAIN and a reasonable degree of intelligence...try to utilize it sometime. The Ethiopian Bible is the only complete one left, it is also the oldest one left, it is VERY different from the one created over 200 years AFTER it that YOU think is so 'perfect'.
The Ethiopian Bible shows that indigenous peoples who still listen to ancestral spiritual wisdom are in fact living how Jesus preached was the best way to spiritually live on the Earth....the European Bible that brainwashed you - teaches you the OPPOSITE....no wonder it was used by Europeans to destroy indigenous peoples all over the world....so sad that you are too uneducated to realize any of this as yet.
The excuse religious people usually then use is to say "Oh that was then, but God changed his mind this is why Jesus did not say that....forgetting that Paul's teaching were AFTER Jesus, and a perfect God would NOT 'change' it's mind...you are projecting your OWN limited human and flawed intelligence onto a perfect being that does not make 'mistakes'...it is akin to bringing God DOWN to the human level of consciousness instead of trying to elevate yourself UP to God's level of perfection. This is why you are unable to see the lies hidden in the Bible as truths, Jesus said "It is NEVER God's will that a single child should EVER be harmed"....yet in the old Testament your Bible has many lies where 'God' supposedly told Abraham to sacrifice his son (even though Jesus said 'God does NOT require blood sacrifice') in order to 'prove' his love for God...are you so stupid that you cannot see that a God who can create the ENTIRE Universe - would EASILY be able to tell if a mere human was deceiving him or not? Even an ordinary parent can tell when their own child is lying to them!
Or when 'God' supposedly told Kind David (and other bloodthirsty 'heroes' to "Kill every man, woman, and CHILD in any city that did not surrender to them"....or how about the book of Psalms that glorifies the murder of the babies of your enemies when it says in:
How hard do you really think it would be for such an entity to deceive gullible iron age animal herders in the desert 2000 or more years ago by appearing to them as an 'angel' or by making them hear a commanding voice? Not hard at all - the proof is right in your own Bible when you read of all these ungodly and evil deeds that men did - especially throughout the Old Testament - because they thought 'God' told them to do these things.....it certainly was NOT the God of love that your Jesus preached about!
They usually then say 'Jesus said when you were naked I clothed you'....forgetting that Jesus was a member of the Hebrew tribe who wear clothes and who live in the middle East where the nights can get very cold, and where by day naked skin would be burned by the scorching sun...so to be without clothing in the middle East WOULD be a sign that you are suffering and need help...NOT so in the humid jungles & rain-forests of the world where the trees shield you from the sun, rain falls almost nightly, and the nights are not cold.....TRY to use your common sense when you read your 'holy book'....it really helps you to UNDERSTAND what you are actually reading.
They even say that we who STILL know that our ancestors continue to live in spirit form believe in 'silly things like dreams'.....they forget ALL the places in their Bible where dreams were the way God used to send messages to humans (just as we still experience), from Daniel to Revelations and everywhere in between and before in YOUR Holy Book....these spiritually dead 'religious' people even laugh when we say the animals communicate with us...yet in their own Bible in many places (including Revelations) you can read of an 'Eagle flying in mid-heaven crying out a warning to the inhabitants of the Earth'...so who is the bigger fool? We who understand your own book better than you? Or you who think you are so 'knowledgeable' and 'righteous' and are yet so ignorant of the contents in the very book you love to quote morning, noon and night?
The reason why you do NOT have the kinds of spiritual experiences that people like me have, is because you are one of the spiritually dead people whom Jesus spoke about when he said "For there are none so blind - as those who WILL NOT see!".....and just to help you understand even that - a person who is literally blind is someone who CANNOT see, someone who's eyes work but they still do not see what is around them - is someone who WILL NOT see.
All for your information and guidance.
This video on youtube has the wrong name - because the God of the ENTIRE Bible is not evil, but these examples DO show PROOF that what I said about 'Satan' pretending to be God in various parts of the Bible - and giving mortal men very EVIL instructions....Jesus said NONE of these things, so do not hate Jesus just because the Bible has these lies included in it: Jesus is NOT the problem, he was a long haired indigenous man trying to teach some spiritual truths like I try - and we ALL should - to emulate...it is the kinds of unscrupulous cunning people who use his great words for their own dark personal power trips, perverted lusts with gullible children and others in their faiths, and to serve their own political agendas ARE!